Two Lionel Lehigh Valley Twin Bay Hoppers, no box. Each one is 9.5 inches from coupler to coupler, 2.75 inches from rail to top of Hopper. The maroon one has metal trucks and metal couplers, the Black one has plastic trucks and plastic couplers. Both are marked Built 1-48, the maroon one says Lionel 6456, the black one says Lionel 6076. The Maroon one is heavier and has metal steps above each truck and a metal break wheel. Both are numbered L.V. 25000. Check out my other auctions, all of my 0-27 rolling stock will be listed. I'm going with true O Scale. Ask questions if you have them. E-Mail before bidding if you have less than a ten positive feedback score. I prefer Pay-Pal, sorry, no credit cards. And will ship USPS unless otherwise negotiated. I expect E-Mail contact with in two days and payment with in ten days.