STANLEY/BAILEY# 4 1/2 TYPE 17 WITH HEAVIER CASTING

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Check out my other items !THIS IS THE STANLEY/ BAILEY #4 1 /2 TYPE 17, 1942- 1945.THE WAR YEAR PLANES WERE PUT TOGETHER WITH WHATEVER THEY HAD SO ONE SEES ALOT OF UNUSUAL DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE MAKE UP OF THE PLANES FROM THIS ERA . AND IN GENERAL THE CASTING WERE MADE HEAVIER THAN OTHER PERIODS. THE HANDLES WERE CHANGED FROM ROSEWOOD TO OTHER HARD WOODS AND SOME WERE PAINTED BLACK. T WERE A FEW ROSEWOOD ONES AS THEY USED UP OLD PARTS FROM THE PAST. THIS PLANE IS OF THE STAINED HARDWOOD VARIETY, IT'S DARK ENOUGH THAT ONE COULD NOT BE SURE IF IT WERE ROSEWOOD,BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS. ANOTHER AREA OF DIFFERANCE IN MAKE UP WAS THE DEPTH ADJUSTMENT KNOB, SINCE BRASS WAS NOT AVAILABLE BECAUSE OF THE WAR,STEEL WAS SOMETIMES USED AND SO WAS A BLACK-PLASTIC,RUBBERY MATERIAL. THIS PLANE HAS THE BLACK PLASTIC RUBBERY MATERIAL FOR THE DEPTH ADJUSTMENT KNOB.I ALMOST DID NOT BUY IT BECAUSE OF THE COSMETIC LOOKS OF IT BUT AS I STARTED THINKING ABOUT IT, THE #4 1/2 WAS MADE TO BE A HEAVIER PLANE TO BEGIN WITH SO THE EXTRA WEIGHT IN THE CASTING SHOULD HELP IT'S PERFORMANCE AND I WENT FOR IT BACAUSE THE REST OF IT WAS PRETTY GOOD.ALSO SOME OF THE PLANES HAD FROG ADJUSTMENT SCREWS ,SOME DID NOT AND SOME HAD HOLES DRILLED IN THE CASTING FOR ADJUSTMENT SCREWS WITHOUT THE SCREWS, T WAS NO TELLING WHAT ONE MIGHT GET.THIS PLANE HAS NO FROG ADJUSTMENT SCREW BUT THE FROG CAN STILL BE ADJUSTED BY SLIDING THE FROG BACK AND FORTH ON THE FROG PLACEMENT SCREWS AS THE SLOTS WERE STILL OBLONG THAT THE HOLDING SCREWS WENT THRU TO FASTEN TO THE METAL BASE. SO TO ADJUST THE FROG ONE MUST TAKE OFF THE BLADE,CHIP-BREAKER AND LEVER CAP AND LOOSEN THE FROG HOLDING SCREWS TO MOVE IT BACK OR FORWARD .. HOW MANY TIMES A DAY WOULD ONE NEED TO ADJUST THE FROG ON THIS PLANE? SO I DON'T PARTICULARLY SEE THAT AS THAT BIG OF A DEAL ON THIS PLANE, BUT I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW. THOSE ARE THE MAIN DIFFERENCES ON TYPE 17 ON THIS PLANE, ONE CAN'T APPLY IT TO EVERY PLANE OF THE ERA THOUGH.THE CONDITION OF THE PLANE IS VERY GOOD T ARE NO CRACKS,NO PITTING OR RUSTING.THE HARDWOOD IS IN EXCELLENT SHAPE,NO CRACKS,BAD SCRATCHES,GOUGES OR MISSING PIECES. THE JAPANINNING IS ABOUT 90+% . T IS A SPOT MISSING JUST TO THE LEFT OF THE BACK HANDLE AND A LITTLE MISSING AROUND THE FRONT KNOB. ANOTHER THING ABOUT PLANES OF THIS ERA IS THE METAL ON THE LEVER CAPS IS A LITTLE COARSER FINISH ,BUT THAT KIND OF GIVES IT A UNIQUE LOOK IN TEXTURE. MARKINGS ON THE PLANE ARE : SAYS (NO 4 1/2) ON TOE , (BAILEY) BEHIND THE FRONT KNOB, (STANLEY) WITH JUST STEEL BACKGROUND ON LEVER CAP AND (MADE IN THE USA) BEHIND THE FROG. ON THE BLADE IT SAYS (STANLEY, MADE IN USA) AND I DON'T SEE ANY PAT. DATES ANYW THE PLANE IS 10 1/4" LONG AND 2 3/4"WIDE AND THE BLADE IS 2 3/8'' WIDE BY 7 7/8" LONG. SOME OF THE LEVER CAPS OF THE ERA HAD THE OLD OVAL SHAPE HOLE IN THE LEVER CAP, WHILE OTHERS HAD THE NEWER MORE ADVANCED KIDNEY SHAPE CAP. THIS ONE HAS THE KIDNEY SHAPE CAP. AND THATS ABOUT IT. I'VE NOTICED THE PRICES ON THESE PARTICULAR PLANES HAVE SEEMED TO MOVE HIGHER LATELY AND SINCE THE MODAL OF THIS ERA SEEMS TO HAVE SOME DIFFERANCES, I THOUGHT YOU NEEDED TO KNOW WHAT THEY WERE BEFORE ANY BIDDING. SO IS THE BLACK DEPTH ADJUSTMENT KNOB WORTH THE EXTRA GOOD SHAPE OF THIS PLANE AND THE EXTRA WEIGHT IN THE CASTING THAT PROBABLY HELPS THE PERFORMANCE OF THE #4 1/2??? WHO KNOWS, MAYBE BECAUSE T IS SO FEW OF THESE BLACK KNOBBERS (1942-1945) AND THEN NOT ALL OF THEM FROM THE PERIOD HAD THE BLACK KNOBS, IT MIGHT JUST ADD VALUE TO THEM?????The free listing tool. List your items fast and easy and manage your active items. read more

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